tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700150753820174455.post4544806654121015558..comments2024-03-10T05:42:12.354-07:00Comments on Needs more polish: Tomato, TomatoTim Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06910940384715330490noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700150753820174455.post-33580303736360443102009-07-22T15:19:33.220-07:002009-07-22T15:19:33.220-07:00to give some background context, this post came on...to give some background context, this post came on the back of Amazon redacting 1984, which you have to wonder is a publicity stunt to point out the absurdity of sensorship (given the premise of information reduction as a form of control). Samuel R. Delany's Babel 17 pushes the other way, and suggests complete clarity of communication given the perfect language. I wonder if the mix of media we are becoming more accustomed to with the interwebs (language as text plus sound plus colour plus ...) will change how we communicate.Tim Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06910940384715330490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700150753820174455.post-1942507731158617862009-07-22T15:01:23.297-07:002009-07-22T15:01:23.297-07:00Excellent links, Chris. Given the depths of resear...Excellent links, Chris. Given the depths of research, does it not make you wonder that the areas where communication modification (propaganda, misdirection) appear most prevalent seem to be advertising and politics? Why do the general public not see this happening around them? We're being lied to more effectively than we're being given the truth.<br /><br />Taking the tin foil hat off, How can we apply our symbol alphabets to the task of communicating with less error? Assuming a larger alphabet (like Kanji) or more error correction (I haven't got a good example language here, but recent computer programming languages tend in this direction via syntax) is there a measurable property that describes learning speed or context transmission to point the way?Tim Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06910940384715330490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700150753820174455.post-7060997523037369252009-07-22T14:35:35.249-07:002009-07-22T14:35:35.249-07:00All this stuff has been well researched already in...All this stuff has been well researched already in the field of knowledge management. If you want a quick tour then I'd suggest http://www.aber.ac.uk/media/Documents/short/trans.html as a good starting point - particularly for anybody that's done a spot of sampling. A detour to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics is then recommended before reaching the final destination of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivism_(learning_theory) where it becomes clear that language shapes our learning process, and hence how we understand the world around us. The journey is then complete in terms of understanding why Newspeak (or NuSpeak - the language of NuLab) is so important - control the message and you control the meaning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com